2 pictures given by reliable sources.both cannot be right |
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90% of people on the dole are unemployable |
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Always on about unemplyed, don't mention all the new jobs starting up |
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Arious groups are excluded and believe figures are higher than reported |
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Baseline changes from Gov't to Gov't and one Gov't Dept to another |
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Because they don't take into account the total number of people who are unemployed-housewives for instance. |
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Because they only go by the people that have actually claimed and they also leave out the 16 -18 year olds. |
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Better than they were but training and short term "employment" distorts the picture |
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Both main political parties are always arguing about the correctness of the figures |
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Can't see that they are able to collect correct figures with holidays & different work patterns e.g. part time, nightworking, etc. |
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Criticism of figures by other bodies eg opposition MPs etc and that I don't know enough about how teh figures are collected |
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Does it take all classes into account-you have students and other classes of people not involved in them.These employment figures are only for those receiving benefits |
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Dont take into account seasonal labour, part time etc |
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For example, with the new deal they only had a trial period in a one particular area for 2 months and so it was not accurate and still very difficult to get a job |
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Goverment traing schemes hide unemployment |
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Governmant and Opposition arguing about the figures - one big argument |
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I don't see how it all works-inflation is reducing yet people are losing jobs and firms are going bust-what do we base the answers on |
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I think there is more people out of work than what they say |
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I think there is more unemployment than what they are saying |
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I think they can jugggle the figures about |
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Include groups of people which should not be in the statistics |
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Lagging to what is actually happening |
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MISLEADING WHEN PEOPLE ARE RETIRED EARLY RATHER THAN OFFER THEM FURTHER EMPLOYME |
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Many people dont register as unemployed |
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Not everyone is on registerd |
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People making money not really unemployed |
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People sometimes sign on when they have a job, and vice versa |
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Politically manipulated and seasonal figures are publicised |
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SEASONALJOB VARIATIONS ARE NOT REFLECTED IN FIGURES |
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Said generally correct but subject to some errors |
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Seasonal variations because of students for example |
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Seasonaly adjusted |
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TENDS TO BE BASED ONLY ON THOSE CLAIMING BENEFIT |
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THINK THERE IS MORE THAN THEY SAY |
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The papers vary in their coverage of statistics |
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There's too many schemes around to get people off the figures, eg. they do not reflect the people on family credit |
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They don't add students etc into the total of unemployed/think there are more unemployed than they are saying |
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They put out one lot of figures ,then they are searsonally adjusted |
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They take part time work into consideration and I don't think they should do-full time work only. |
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Tries to hide some things e.g. youth unemployment - special schemes take people out of the figures |
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We as individuals don't really know if the statistics are right-they could be picking up numbers out of thin air |
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You see people being made redundant sometimes getting jobs-it depends on your motivation and this affects figures |
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a load of crap/ |
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a lot more people working and claiming benefit |
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a lot of part time jobs theyre not proper jobs, people off the register eg |
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a lot of people are not registered as unemployed even though they have no work |
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a lot of people claim unemployment when they are not unemployed |
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a lot of people not included in figures |
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adjustments are made which mystify seasonal adj etcno explanatiuon |
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again I dont think everything is taken into account |
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again its just a rough guidline - its only a projection i suppose |
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all these on employment schemes and thing like are include and i think this misleads figures |
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alot of people don't get counted |
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always behind what'shappening |
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as above and different interpretations |
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at certain times there are seasonal fl |
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awful lot of people that cannot be taken into the figures/they're not available for work |
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because a lot of people work part time and thats not taking in nto account |
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because married women and homeless and people under the age of 18 are not counted |
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because of seasonal differences eg fruit picking, christmas work, what do they count as unemployed? |
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because of the various schemes to cover unemployed |
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because so much of the work round here is seasonal |
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because they are modified by so many things like school leavers are treated and that people are back in work when they are really not |
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because what ever govt is in , they make up the numbers |
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becuase there are a lot of kids who have left school and havent got their names down but no jobs and it doesnt take account of them |
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benefit fraud is misleading |
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can't be accurate enough as the job market is extremely fluid - could be a sharp increase in people being made redundant from employment - gets put in wrong set of figures |
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can't survey everything /people supposed to be unemployed but working |
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cant generalise as a country as a whole, depends what region you come from, doesnt include alot of people who are looking for work |
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certain categories are politically left out |
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certain jpeople are unemployed but left off the figures because they are on courses |
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certain types are not included |
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come up with schemes and put people on them and donot count them as unemployed |
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confusion between full and part time data |
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contradictory;dont know what to believe |
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criteria difffers ie training schemes |
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criteria have narrowed more than peoples perception |
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definition of unemployment dubious |
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depends how compiled |
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depends if people have declared themselves earning or not |
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depends on figures included |
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depends on industry |
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depends on time of year |
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depends on what type of work is included / part timers may as well be unemployed / govt creates schemes to get people off the dole but they are actually earning less for working |
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do not cope with employment patters and the black economy |
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do not trust politicans |
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does not seem to relate to my particular area |
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does not show the true position of unemployment - those that feature on the sick |
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does not take everthing into consideration eg seasonal work,flutuation in patterns of work,agency shortimers,freelancers |
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does not take into acc short tern/temp work |
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doesnt reflect dole fiddlers |
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don't count all the people who are really unemployed |
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don't reflect current information |
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don't show the full picture - don't show disabled, sick, those on schemes, elderly and all those that don't sign on |
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don't take account of all circumstances - very high incomes distort figures |
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don't take everything into accounts |
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dont get facts right |
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dont include over 55s |
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dont know how they are picked people on the sick a4re not included |
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dont reflect a true picture because of the amount of benefit fraud and people included but they are actually employed, and then there are school leavers not counted, and housewives all of whom are lo |
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dont reflect everyone out of work |
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dont take into account people out of work and not claiming |
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dont think the numbers reflect the full no of folk unemployed |
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everyone I know who is unemployed also works unofficially, part-time unemployed do not count |
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everyone i know is still in the same situation |
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figures are obtained only from those claiming benefit not those actually unemployed |
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figures do not cover everyony--self -empolyed for an example |
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figures dont included all unemployed ie sickness |
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figures dont reflect the seasonal changes |
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figures for people claiming benefit don't give true picture |
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figures not comlete truth some people unemployed not recorded |
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govt does not always tell the truth |
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govt. depts juggle them around, they tend to |
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gvt schemes dont reflect true figures |
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housewives and benefit claimants are not counted in the figures |
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i do not trust the figures .they bring in schemes for the young but they know they are not employed |
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i don't think they are up to date with whats really going on |
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i dont think its all that simple, |
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i hear of so many people losing their jobs |
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i just think they are |
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i know a lot of unemployed people |
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i m sceptical about the seasonally adjusted element of it |
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i think they may only choode to publish paert of the truth |
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in the season here, there are a lot of jobs, out of it there are few |
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it all depends who you are listening to |
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it depends on what season it is - sometimes people have summer jobs |
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it depends on what they include |
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it depends; there are schemes people can go on which should not be categorised as full time employment |
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it does not give you the full picture |
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it only counts people on the dole for 6 months, after that they are taken off the list |
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its a general figure, in the North its not optomistic |
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jobs in job centres available which are not being filled |
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just what I think |
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keep changing the goal posts. Certainly not about people claiming benefit |
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large black economy |
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leading you ip the garden path |
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long term unemployed and over 60's are not on list /also unemlpoyed who are on social security don't get dole so not on statistics/the figures could be double what they say they are |
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lot of people have savings but unemployed and not shown on stats |
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lots of categories don't fall within the classes being counted |
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lots of job losses and then unemployment figures go down by thousands |
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lots of people dont sign on |
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lots of reports about fiddling of figures and manipulation |
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many unemployed not taken into account |
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massage the figures |
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may and may not include school leavers |
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meaningless to the public, not all people are on the list that should be |
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media controversy programmes & whose party you are listening |
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method of calculating figures changes with diff govs |
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misquoted/jsa mentionaed as not included in figures |
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more out of jobs than they say |
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not a true consensus of what is happening locally |
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not all people are registered unemployment |
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not all people can sign on |
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not always accurate |
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not easy to measure |
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not everybody included |
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not including a lot of people so not counted /don't count people over a certain age /used to be 60 |
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not including certain sections in the figures--such as jobseekers and single parents |
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not sure if they represent people who are not claiming but still looking for a job egmothers seeking employment,recent graduates |
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not sure whether it is the correct figure because they use terms like:seasonally adjusted: |
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one hears that unemployment is going down, then you hear that so many people have been sacked |
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one says one thing and one says another |
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only a small group of people are surveyed |
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only give figures on people who are on benefits |
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only give no. of people who sign on /seasonal variation |
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only going by what they say /shuting places down |
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only include figures of people signing on |
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part time workers mess up the figures / many part timers don't declare |
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people are often moonlighting |
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people can get work if they want to |
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people dont claim income support so it does not include everyone |
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people mislead gathers of inf |
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people on benefit are wary and won't say they are on the dole and won't be counted/and those who have work won't declare they are on the dole |
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people on courses come off list |
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pepole might be doing jobs on the side -and not be signing on |
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persons on diff.types of training schemes not included |
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previous govt. massaged them, but current one perhaps doesn't |
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probably more people unemployed than are claiming benefit |
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publish figures at end of school year when there are more unemployed |
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put down more people who have gone back into work don't take into account others /the figures are wrong somewhere along the line |
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random samples don't reflect the truth / and because there are many factors involved |
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rather large black ecconomy |
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respondants dont give true answers |
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seasonal changes |
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seasonal down here with people working on the land etc |
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seasonal work & people not telling truth |
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some don't claim and some do who shouldn't |
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some groups are ecluded from the count better to come clean and say who whas included and who not |
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some people are unemployed just for a short time |
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some people dont register because they think no jobs available,large swings not reflected |
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some people down on another list not included in u nemployment |
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some people say they are unemployed when they are wirking |
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some people who are hobbling (working without declaring it) are not counted |
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some people who are unemployed are in work |
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some people whose parents are welloff they dont go for a job or claim benefits |
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some untrue answers |
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sometimees they miss some people out long term unemployed |
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sometimes people do work and sometimes they dont and they cant get the job |
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sometimes they might be correct and sometimes they might be different for different areas |
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sopme poeple are on the figures and they are cehating the system and others are not on |
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statistics are historic |
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statistics can be made to say what you want them to say |
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take peolple on job-seekers allowance and thing like that |
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taking young people out of the equation |
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that many guys on couses and at university |
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the figures are just a generalisation, not saying if people are on any benefits |
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the figures make out unemployment is improving but people around me are still unable to find works |
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there are a lot of temporary /agency workers who don't collect dole so off unemployment list because on temp. contract |
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there are alot of people who arn't registered as unemployed, so I'm not convinced |
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there are lots of people unregistered who are looking for work and lots of young people on govt. training schemes not registered |
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there are plenty of jobs acc to govt but people look but do not find |
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there are so many bits and pieces that people arent counted for, so difficult to get correct picture |
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there are so many people who are not working and have no intentions of working who are included in the figures. |
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there have been lots of changes in definitions of who is unemployed so i think some people ar e excluded |
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there is a variety of different ways of interpreting them, say mothers might not be counted as they dont sign on etc |
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there seem to be a lot jobs in paper bur unemployment is supposed to be high |
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they are higher than they should be. people are working and there are jobs |
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they bend the figures |
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they cant be right all the time |
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they contradict one another |
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they dont account for youngstersie 16-18yrs etc |
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they dont pick up casual workers |
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they dont take into account illegal immigrants etc. and people working and still claiming benefits |
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they dont take into account school leavers, immigrants |
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they fiddle the books |
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they shunt you out and you're not counted in the figures |
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theyre balancing the books |
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things are supposed to be getting better but people are still unemployed |
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time of issue of stats is for best results; needs qualification, includes those not seeking employment when unemployed |
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time of year children leaving school |
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too many schemes dont reflect true figures |
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training schemes distort figures |
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true figures concealed |
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two sets of figures being quoted on television |
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under 18 not included ,women working part time not included,lrarning regarded as employed but not producing |
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unemployed get sidelined into various schemes to be put off the list |
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unemployment changes too quickly |
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very difficult to get a true picture week by week |
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with job schemes they count people who are not properly employed |
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with so many companies opening and closing hard to count |
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work is v seasonal here, not represented |
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you dont know who the survey is missing out and i dont know how it is conducted |
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you get conflicting reports on it and you don't know which one to believe |
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you hear of more people coming out of work than people getting jopbs |
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you hear people say they are not working and they are and still signing on |
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you only have to listen to people who want jobs, i just dont think its rights, just misleading |
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you sometimes get it focussed on a specific co or industry too focussed |
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young people kept off figures on schemes |
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young people on government schemes |
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